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February 20, 2009

What’s For Dinner?

Filed under: Raw Food Diet, Uncategorized — myminizoo @ 9:20 pm

A few months ago I did an extensive post on raw food diets for dogs and cats. If you haven’t caught that yet you can do so here : https://myminizoo.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/about-raw-food-diets/

I feel this is the healthiest diet for pet companion animals, but I realize that it can seem quite daunting to those that have never done it before. I remember when I started… I was always worried if I was using the right ingredients in the right ratios. Should I feed supplements? How much do I feed?  Am I feeding enough meat/organs/ eggs? How do I know if my menu is balanced?? etc. etc.

So to simplify things for you I decided to post a little tutorial. This should give you a bit more of an idea should you decide to take the plunge.

 Note: This is just what works for me, there are many different diet variations. You have to take what I say and use it as a spring board. I encourage anyone who is interested in starting their pets on raw to do their research. It’s a lot of work in the beginning but in the end you will have a very good understanding of your pets nutitional needs.

This post is not for the faint of heart!

Tulip Roxy and Alaska waiting at the kitchen door for supper!

Tulip Roxy and Alaska waiting at the kitchen door for supper!

The Basic Diet for the Dogs is:

60-70% Raw Meaty Bones ( chicken necks, backs, or carcasses, turkey necks or wings, pork riblets, lamb riblets etc.)

20-30% Meat, Eggs, Organs, or Yogurt ( I try to vary the types of meats and organs as much as possible, and I only feed yogurt ocasionally)

5-10% Veges ( These are really optional. Many don’t feed them at all and have very health dogs. I choose to include them usually closer to the 5 % mark. The veges are raw and pulped to better mimic the stomach contents of prey)

Supplements (Optional, some feed them to offset what they feed is lacking in the diet)

Basic Diet for Cats:

50% Raw Meaty Bones

50% Eggs,Organs or Meat

Supplements

The menu for today is:

Fresh Chicken Carcasses

 Fresh Chicken Carcasses

Fresh Chicken Carcasses

Fresh Chicken Gizzards
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Fresh Eggs
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Pureed Vegetables

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Supplements – I use Salmon Oil ( Omega 3 Fatty Acids), Vitamin C & E ( Antioxidant vitamins) and Kelp( Trace Minerals and Iodine)

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I measure out a certain amount of each ingredient according to which diet model I am following.

Amount to feed per day

2-3% of each pets body weight in food per day

Take your pets weight and multiply it by 16 to get his weight # in oz.  Then multiply that number by .02 or .03 to get the # of oz to feed  per day.

Then multiply that # by .70 to get the percentage of Raw Bones to feed, .25 to get the amount of meat to feed and .05 to get the amount of veges to feed.

Example:

Roxy weighs 22 lbs X 16 = 352 oz

.o3 of 352 = 10.5 OZ total per day

10.5 X .70 = 7.4 oz Raw Meaty Bones per day

10.5 X .25 = 2.6oz meat or extras per day

10.5 X .05= .5 oz veges per day

Sounds super complicated but its not. I am horrible at math so if I can do it you can too!

I use this as a rough guide, some days they may get a little more or a little less of something. It’s all about balance over time.

This can be closer to 1.5 if the pet is chubby, or up at 3 if the pet is very active.

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It requires a bit more effort than opening a bag of the crunchy stuff, but I think the time is worth it. My pets have never been healthier or more excited about meal times!

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12 Comments »

  1. Mmm, delish. 🙂

    Comment by Aimee — February 22, 2009 @ 7:01 pm

  2. The animals DO love it, although it took the cats a little time to adjust. Also, it’s really not as expensive as you might think, especially if you buy in bulk. *Mike*

    Comment by myminizoo — February 24, 2009 @ 1:04 pm

  3. xox baby… You’re so well indoctrinated! lol

    Comment by myminizoo — February 24, 2009 @ 2:09 pm

  4. So that’s how you get so much time to work and study – you just don’t cook the food! What about bugs and worms and those yucky things?

    Comment by Terrie — February 24, 2009 @ 3:50 pm

    • Exactly! To answer your question dogs and cats have a shorter intestinal tract than us, and it is also much more acidic. Thus bacteria is much less likely to affect them as they are killed by the acicity or pass through too quickly to cause problems. If you think about it dogs bury their bones and cats eat mice and neither seem to get sick from it it starts to make sense!

      Comment by myminizoo — February 24, 2009 @ 10:34 pm

  5. Mira – that was a very succinct and painless post on raw food diet. My animals have been on dry food since we arrived, and Mittens just looks at me when I rattle those pebbles in her dish… like – “Is that all I get?” So, she is just under a year old, in good shape, on the smallish side. I have no idea how much she weighs. How much would you feed a young, smaller cat?

    I’ve gotta get some sources for bulk food, and get this thing going again!

    Comment by Haidi — February 25, 2009 @ 3:03 am

  6. Oh – and do you just feed your pets once a day? Morning or evening?

    Comment by Haidi — February 25, 2009 @ 3:04 am

  7. Hey Haidi… well I will do a private nutrition consult with you for free if you like 🙂
    I would get mittens off dry food as cats tend to get addicted to it pretty fast. Does she like wet food? I found wet food is great to help switch them to raw as you can mix in the raw into it gradually.
    Cats tend not to overeat so I just feed them pretty much as much as they’ll eat. Its probably around 8 oz a day.
    I feed the cats 2 times a day but the dogs only once in the evening. Cats tend to be more grazers, eating lots of small meals, while dogs are more gorgers!
    Try looking for meat packers or processing plants… We found on and its dirt cheap. We pay $6 for about 25 lb of chicken carcasses!
    Good luck!

    Comment by myminizoo — February 25, 2009 @ 4:21 am

  8. Cool info. I wish it had been out before I started raw feeding. Jake has/had skin issues and oily stink often referred to as doggy smell. He had scratched himself raw and I couldn’t fix it by changing his kibble. The Vet was going to be really expensive and therefore not really an option. I did some research and I had a beautiful stink-free dog in a matter of weeks. The cool thing is we have a local freecycle group and I just asked for meat and got it free!

    Comment by Kelly M — March 15, 2009 @ 2:19 am

    • Wow! Thats great! I am always happy to hear about success stories. I tell many people about raw feeding but most just smile and nod and keep feeding cheap dog food without any idea what crap is in it!
      I believe that vet services are very important, but for certain problems, like skin or allergies they seem to only have bandaid solutions, such as steriods or anti inflammatories. These may make it seem like the dog is getting better but really you are only suppressing the symptoms!

      The diet is really simple to do once you get the hang of it. Its really hard to create imbalances as long as you feed at least 60% raw meaty bones( bone/meat that can be fully ingested such as chicken carcasses) the rest just needs to be a variety of organs and other meat, and veges if you choose!

      Good luck and if you have any questions just drop me a line!

      Comment by myminizoo — March 15, 2009 @ 11:47 am

  9. Hi, I just happened upon your site by accident and glad I did. I had a difficult time with kibble and have been feeding dehydrated for about 8 months now. My girls go crazy for it and they bowl me over when I open the freezer (they all three go nuts for frozen veggies – no onions, raisins, etc). I have wanted to do the raw food thing but it makes me nervous with nutritional shortages. Do you know much about the dehydrated raw foods? and it surprises me to see you feed raw chicken. I was always told NEVER to give a dog chicken bones. Am I missing something here?

    Thanks

    Comment by Jeannie — May 5, 2009 @ 11:57 pm

    • Hey Jeanie thanks for reading

      I have been feeding raw to my gang for over a year now and everyone is doing great! Better coats, shiny teeth, less doggy odor. I really dont worry too much about nutritional balance. As long as at least 50% of their diet is raw meaty bones and the rest is a mix of muscle meat, organs, fish and veges you’ll have no problem. Its really the dog food industry that has sold us on the idea that dogs have to get every single nutrient in every meal. In reality its more practical to think balance over time. Also, you have to remember that because the food is raw all the nutrients are in the most available state, none of the nutrients or enzymes are lost to cooking processes.

      As far as dehydrated raw foods, I have never used them. Its an interesting idea, but I just find it easier and more economical to go with making my own raw.

      As far as giving chicken carcasses its totally fine. The warnings for chicken bones are for COOKED chicken bones, which are very dangerous as they are brittle and will splinter. Raw chicken bones are soft and dogs easily chew them up and consume them.

      This is a great link for more information on raw diets http://leerburg.com/feedingarawdiet.htm
      or visit http://www.pets.ca ( its a message board. there are many people there that feed raw that can help you with any problems you may have)

      Comment by myminizoo — May 7, 2009 @ 2:26 pm


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